Live-Blogging the Texas Social Studies Textbook Hearing

1:15 – The State Board of Education (SBOE) has begun the second and final public hearing on social studies textbooks up for adoption for Texas public schools. MerryLynn Gerstenschlager from Texas Eagle Forum is up now. She just criticized textbooks for not making sure students learn about the “debate” over climate change. She argues that climate change science is part of a United Nations conspiracy to redistribute wealth globally.

1:18 – SBOE member Ken Mercer, R-San Antonio, insists that students should learn “the other side” of the debate. If he wants students to learn the other side of the political debate, that’s one thing. But the IPCC has made clear that the overwhelming scientific evidence shows climate change is a real and growing threat and that human activity is the primary driver.

1:23 – Joanathan Kaplan, who teaches Middle Eastern studies at the University of Texas at Austin, is critical of textbooks that present Moses as a major influence on the American founding, and he explains that it is a “gross exaggeration” for textbooks to suggest that the the roots of democratic political and legal traditions lie in the Old Testament.

1:25 – SBOE member Pat Hardy, R-Fort Worth, insists that Mosaic law influenced English common law, which in turn influenced American law.

1:29 – SBOE Chair Barbara Cargill, R-The Woodlands, says people who say the SBOE wants Moses identified as a “founding father” are “ignorant.” So disingenuous. In fact, no one has said the SBOE wanted textbooks to teach that. But scholars and others have pointed out that the textbooks and the curriculum standards would mislead students to think that Moses was a major influence. One scholar has joked that students could end up mistaking Moses as the “first American.”

SBOE members are scrambling to explain that they didn’t want the textbooks to do what the standards the board passed four years ago essentially required the textbooks to do.

1:39 – Retired teacher Anthony Bruner warns that communists have tried to use the schools to indoctrinate students and undermine America. Among the tactics, he says, is not to teach students real American history. That doesn’t include, he says, history according to liberals, teacher groups and unions. OK, then.

1:41 – Bruner calls for the rejection of the textbooks up for adoption. No surprise. He’s also upset that the United States is described as a democracy. SBOE member Tincy Miller, R-Dallas, is disturbed by this. The right wants textbooks to describe the United States as a republic. Of course, Cuba is also a republic. So is China. But they’re not representative democracies. At least not in reality. The United States is.

1:51 – Next speaker, Karin Gililland, is also upset that with textbooks that don’t describe the United States as a republic. And she’s off into a lecture about why America is a republic, not a democracy.

1:57 – Now Cargill is on the “republic” bandwagon. She counted all times the curriculum standards say “constitutional republic.”

1:59 – Speaker Emile McBurney is up and has launched an attack on Common Core curriculum and complains that one of the publishers based its textbook on Common Core. She then links Common Core to teaching students about sexual perversion (or something). It’s hard to follow conspiracy theorists. So many dots to connect.

2:33 – After a long discussion about Common Core, Prof. Jennifer Graber from the University of Texas is testifying about the exaggerations of religious influences (Moses! Old Testament! King Solomon!) on the founding. She is delivering a letter signed by 53 historians, political scientists and other scholars from around the country who object to the inaccurate information on this issue in the texts. You can read the letter here.

2:45 – Barbara Lamontagne just spoke. She complained that one of the textbooks called General Douglas MccArthur a racist. But then she says she couldn’t get access to the textbooks to read them. So how does she know what they say about MacArthur?

2:50 – Roy White, chairman of Truth in Texas Textbooks (TTT), is up to speak now. TTT appears to be loosely affiliated with ACT! for America, an extremist, anti-Muslim organization. White is upset that one of the publishers agreed to change a textbook passage so that it teaches (accurately) that Islam over time spread through trade and missionary work, in addition to (particularly in its early years) conquest. White says Islam was spread “almost exclusively by the sword.” That’s simply not true. White is now on to a rant about the need for students to “learn the facts about Islam.” Good grief — now he suggests that there were no Jews and Christians left living where Islam spread in its early years. Not true. He suggests that the Quran instructs Muslims to be extremists. And now he’s on to Islam being a political system, not a religion.

3:18 – Roy White is still speaking and claims that his reviewers found 1,507 errors in the textbooks. That’s absurd. Many of those “errors” are claims like evolution is “bunk.”  Dr. David Brockman, who teaches religious studies at SMU in Dallas and reviewed the textbooks for the Texas Freedom Network Education Fund, analyzed the Truth in Texas Textbooks reviews for us. You can read his analysis at


3:22 – In answer to a question about his expertise on Islam, White says he’s self-taught. Indeed.

3:25 – White says he was trained in how to review textbooks by Neal Frey! Frey runs Educational Research Analysts, which was founded by the late Mel and Norma Gabler in Longview out in East Texas. The Gablers were the royalty of right-wing censorship. Frey was their apprentice.

3:31 – White says Islam is a way of life, like communism. Good grief.

3:33 – Now White is suggesting that the Crusaders slaughtered Muslims and Jews when they invaded the Holy Land in the Middle Ages because they were just trying to save Christians who lived there.

3:43 – SBOE member Mercer claims someone says the board made Moses a founding father. In fact, no one has said that, Mr. Mercer. What scholars have suggested is that textbooks so wildly exaggerate the so-called influence of Moses that students might be forgiven for coming away with the impression that the old fellow sat with Ben Franklin at the Constitutional Convention.

3:57 – Amy Jo Baker, a retired teacher who reviewed textbooks for Truth in Texas Textbooks, is up now. She’s complaining that the textbooks don’t define jihad correctly. She argues that jihad is about using war to spread Islam. We wonder how she became an expert on Islam.

4:09 – SBOE member Lawrence Allen, D-Fresno, who actually is Muslim, is trying to explain to Baker what jihad means. But Baker suggests that she knows Islam better than he does.

4:26 – Now we have Jonathan Saenz from the right-wing, anti-gay lobby group Texas Values. He hasn’t bothered to show up at recent SBOE meetings. He’s upset that concerns over absurd suggestions in the textbooks that Moses influenced the Constitution are efforts to deny the importance of religion in American history. And he suggests that the Ten Commandments posted in government buildings, including the Supreme Court, demonstrate Moses’ influence. But no one argues that Moses hasn’t been an influential religious figure for Jews and Christians or that religion hasn’t been influential in American history. Religion has had a powerful cultural influence in American history. The question is whether Moses influenced the Constitution. He did not, and scholar after scholar has pointed this out. And let’s remember that John Adams, in an 1825 letter to Thomas Jefferson, was clear in rejecting the notion that the Ten Commandments influenced the Constitution.

4:34 – Saenz references his work in Houston to support religious freedom. What he means, of course, is the freedom to discriminate — to fire or deny public services to someone — based on one’s personal religious beliefs.

4:37 – SBOE member Donna Bahorich, R-Houston, suggests that John Adams, Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson included Moses in the Seal of the United States. Well, here’s what The Jefferson Monticello website says about this (emphasis added):

Adams favored the figure of Hercules, contemplating images of Virtue and Sloth, but admitted this was “too complicated a group for a seal or medal, and it is not original.”

Franklin produced a biblical scheme: “Moses standing on the Shore, extending his Hand over the Sea, thereby causing the same to overwhelm Pharaoh who is sitting in an open Chariot, a Crown on his Head and a Sword in his Hand. Rays from a Pillar of Fire in the Clouds, reaching to Moses, to express that he acts by Command of the Deity.”

Jefferson’s ideas were similar to Franklin’s. But in addition to the emblem of Moses and Pharaoh, Jefferson proposed, on the reverse, “Hengist and Horsa, the Saxon chiefs from whom we claim the honor of being descended, and whose political principles and form of government we have assumed.

Note whom Jefferson credited for our “political principles and form of government.” It wasn’t Moses.

4:42 – Zack Kopplin is up speaking on behalf of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, presenting petitions with 40,000 signatures from individuals calling for textbooks that teach honest history about, among other things, religious influences in American history.

5:12 – The public hearing is over. After a break, the board is now discussing the adoption of the textbooks.

5:35 – The discussion going on right now illustrates the absurdity of how Texas politicians adopt textbooks for 5 million public school students. Texas Education Agency staff just distributed to SBOE members lists of factual errors alleged by people in the general public, including the anti-Muslim fanatics at Truth in Texas Textbooks. TEA staff members say publishers are still sending in responses to those claims of factual errors, including whatever changes (if any) the publishers are suggesting they will make. Yet board members plan to take a first vote on which textbooks to adopt tonight — without knowing what all those changes might be. How can SBOE members vote on textbooks when they don’t know what changes publishers will make to address the alleged factual errors? And how will SBOE members — few of whom are educators much less content experts — know whether these really are factual errors and that publisher changes really correct those errors? Perhaps asking scholars would help — something TFN has recommended for years. But that clearly makes too much sense.

6:04 – The SBOE is plodding through various awkwardly worded and confusing motions. The preliminary vote on which textbooks to approve is coming.

7:56 – We’re playing catchup here. The SBOE meeting ended a little while ago, and we’ve been talking with board members. We sent out the following press statement:

This evening the State Board of Education failed to take to give preliminary approval to proposed new social studies textbooks for Texas public schools. A number of board members expressed reluctance to give that preliminary approval until they have examined all changes publishers are proposing to their textbooks. The board can still adopt the textbooks on Friday.

Texas Freedom Network President Kathy Miller has the following comments following today’s public hearing and preliminary vote by the State Board of Education:

“It wouldn’t be a Texas textbook adoption without a flurry of last-minute objections from board members and political activists without any expertise on the subject at hand. On issues like bashing Islam and questioning the existence of global warming, we heard a lot of personal and political opinions but no actual facts that would justify revising what the textbooks currently say on those subjects.”

Publishers will be submitting addition changes to their textbooks over the next two days, leading up to the final vote on Friday.

7 thoughts on “Live-Blogging the Texas Social Studies Textbook Hearing

  1. “I’m not a scientist but, … I know more about climate than 97% of the world’s scientist.”

  2. “MerryLynn Gerstenschlager from Texas Eagle Forum is up now. She just criticized textbooks for not making sure students learn about the “debate” over climate change. She argues that climate change science is part of a United Nations conspiracy to redistribute wealth globally.”

    Sure it is. And my underwear was knitted by green dwarfs who live on the dark side of the moon.

  3. If the textbooks say that General MacArthur was a racist, that would indeed be a problem. MacArthur was an insubordinate nut, but the closest he came to racism was some discriminatory deployments in Australia to accommodate the host country sensibilities.

    It was General Patton who was the racist bigot.

    1. abb3w: We’re unclear whether a textbook really called anyone a racist. It would be a good thing if SBOE members actually checked. In any case, what’s frustrating is how so many SBOE members essentially dismiss the testimony of scholars, teachers and other experts who come before them with concerns. But then they seemingly take at face value the testimony of almost anybody else who walks in off the street, so long as they share that individual’s ideological views.

      1. Dan. I know what Donna Cargill would say about your response. Just for fun, let me do my best postulated rendition:

        “Dan. You forget that we Texas SBOE members are duly elected representatives of the people of Texas. We are not educators. We are politicians. Political ideology is always important to politicians. We are not paid to take dictation from the testimony of scholars, teachers, and other experts. We are paid to listen to the people of Texas, listen to their facts as they are presented, and see to it that THEIR WILL is reflected in the content of the state curriculum and the textbooks that support it. What part of the word POLITICIAN is it that you and TFN do not understand? What part of the term PEOPLE’S WILL is it that you and TFN do not understand?”

  4. Hengist and Horsa? The two back-stabbing marauders? Was that a serious proposal or on par with ‘make the turkey our national bird’?
    The cynic in me would of course say that ‘invite the leaders of the people you wanna conquer for peace talks and then murder them’ was a good model for what the US did with the natives. And better let’s not talk about hengist at Finn’s Hall.

  5. Jonathan Saenz is at it again. “It” is telling untruths. Charitably, I won’t call his falsehoods lies because Saenz is so ignorant that I think he really believes the many myths and untruths he repeats, so he is not lying. He gets these factual errors and myths from reading the extreme religious-right literature of Christian Nationalists, homophobes, bigots, Creationists, and global warming deniers he associates with, and he is incapable of distinguishing truth from reality. These individuals are so consumed by hate and conspiracy theories that they will believe anything that supports their views or casts aspersion on their critics, and Saenz belongs to this group.

    During his testimony to the SBOE, Saenz made many claims, most of which are untrue. A better informed or educated person, especially one who claims he is a “practicing attorney” who specializes in First Amendment law, should know better. Let me provide three examples. First, he claimed that the Ten Commandments were highly influential in the origin of law, justice, and Constitutional government in the United States. This claim is completely false. In a recent comment I provided a link to the wonderful review article by legal scholar Steven Green titled “The Fount of Everything Just and Right? The Ten Commandments as a Source of American Law,” in which he shows that attempts to use the Ten Commandments as a source of law in the early colonies failed miserably and the colonists had to resort to using British Common Law. For the source of American government, there are plenty of books and articles that show that Enlightenment philosophers influenced the Founding Fathers, not Mosaic law. Many of the Founders were not Christians, but rather Deists or Unitarians, including the first six presidents of the U.S., and they particularly disdained anything clerical or sectarian. There goal was to found a secular government. There exists an immense literature that documents these facts.

    Second, Saenz likes to use illogical anecdotal evidence to make his case, as if he was arguing before a jury that was as poorly educated and informed as he is (or one that shares his sectarian right-wing agenda), so relying on empirical or eyewitness testimony was not really necessary. He claimed that “Ten Commandments adorn the metal gates of the U.S. Supreme Court Building” in Washington and this demonstrates the influence of the Decalogue on U.S. government and law. Unfortunately for poor Jonathan, this is a common Tea Party/David Barton fairy tale. Here is a photo of the bronze doors to the Supreme Court Building:

    Please note the absence of any Ten Commandments or Moses on these doors! Of course, even IF Moses and his tablets were pictured, his claim of influence would not be true as known from scholarly history. But the missing Moses despite his claim is just hilarious.

    Third, Saenz can’t help himself and he repeats the most common Christian Nationalist myth, that the “Ten Commandments are pictured on the frieze directly behind the Supreme Court Judges,” (he meant Justices, of course, but he may not know the difference; with Jonathan facts are always relative). This myth is also untrue, but it’s easy to make a mistake if one doesn’t actually investigte the history and imagery on the East Wall Frieze. First, here is a photo of the frieze:

    Right in the center is a pylon with Roman numerals I-X inscribed on it. Do these refer to the Ten Commandments as is commonly stated by Christian Nationalists. No! According to the sculptor himself, Adolph Weinman, in a letter to the building architect, Cass Gilbert, the ten numerals on the pylon refer to the first ten amendments to the Constitution, the Bill of Rights. Note that the tableau is a pylon, not tablets. Note the figure of a rising Sun above the ten Roman numerals, an Enlightenment symbol. Note the two allegorical figures on both sides of the pylon, on the left the Majesty of Law and on the right the Power of Government. Note the eagle perched on the pylon, a symbol of the United States. Note that Moses, if he actually existed, would have lived long before the use of Roman numerals. This tableau has absolutely nothing to do with Moses or his Ten Commandments. And, of course, Saenz’s claim that Moses and the Ten Commandments influenced American law and government would be untrue even IF Moses and his tablets were pictured here. Again, the missing Moses proves that Saenz is ignorant about history and fact but he is willing to tell falsehoods about them anyway.

    It is sad that Jonathan Saenz is considered an authority by some SBOE members. Perhaps that is why Texas public education rule-making is the laughingstock of the country.